Posts by Doubting Bro

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Watchtower's "New Light" re Babylonish Captivity, November 2016 WT

by Room 215 in

has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.

Doubting Bro

Eventually, they will need to scrap everything since it's all inter-related. It hasn't fit together (well it never did but at least it used to actually work on a timeline) in quite sometime. Every time they make a change, the rest of their interpretation suddenly doesn't fit.

Honestly, when they started making changes going back to the change in generation in 1995, that was an eyeopener for me and cracks began to form in my belief. Of course, like many here, I pushed it down and doubled down in my efforts. What an idiot!!

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GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

by freddo in

study article: who is leading god's people today?

start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

Doubting Bro

They've always said they were not infallible. It's the saying they make mistakes that feels different. The old way was getting clarifications which in fact were complete reversals of previous positions and not "clarifications" at all. But, they never couched it in terms of a "mistake" only a "new understanding".

The more I think about this, the more I wonder if there is a major change coming.

But, the average JW WILL NOT CARE! Seriously, there may be a few that get awakened just like with the last crazy "adjustment" with the generation. But, I'm not sure if at this point, anything they say or do would cause a major fallout. As a matter of fact, I would venture to guess that any major doctrinal adjustment would either 1) go over everyone's head or 2) get people more enthused for a short period.

Cults change things all the time to keep people off balance. And so the GB will continue to make changes big and small and the beat will go on. Eventually this religion will bleed out by a thousand cuts but it will be a slow fade into the dark night and that will take several generations (real ones not their definition).

I hope I'm wrong but I don't think I am.

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Circuit Organization Guidelines English (S-330-E Us)

by wifibandit in

circuit organization guidelines english (s-330-e us) 03/13.

Doubting Bro

Much thanks go to both you and your sources!!!

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Realtors and Financial Advisors needed: Watchtower Real Estate deals

by Hecce in

https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/ds/documentsearch/partynameresult?page=2.

i don’t know if this topic has been discussed before.

here are the public records of some of the re transactions done by the wt.

Doubting Bro

The IRS couldn't keep the tax exemption away from the Church of Scientology and after that loss, I don't think they want any parts of wacky religions. In the US, freedom of religion is equated with freedom from taxes and its so ingrained in the culture, I don't see it changing anytime soon.

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The increasing WT magazine

by darkspilver in

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friends

apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.

2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .

2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.

Doubting Bro

Interesting they say produced instead of printed. I wonder how much of that number includes downloads?

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Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

Doubting Bro

Paul,

What a moving note your dad sent you. It's so sad what this religion does to people and hopefully you'll be able to smuggle something back to him.

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Which Kingdom Hall Should They Sell? How Does The Governing Body Decide?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well what rule of thumb do you think these financial dim-wits dream up?

i think those not sending in their money to the org are some of the first properties to unload while you spare the higher payers for last.

you don't want to piss off the loyal contributers by making them miss meetings,, that's a no win situation so dump the free loaders as a negative asset and keep the more profitable ones.. and those who's loans the wt forgave, watch what happens if you're not send in those regular payments like before, and slack off by a significant amount.

Doubting Bro

I know for a fact that at least one local KH had the same cost/benefit analysis done. It was a building that needed a bunch of cash to get up to snuff but was in a good location. The congregation had about 40-50 publishers and none of the elders were all that connected. They were given the option of moving to another KH in a nearby town and staying together or disbanding and dispersing. They chose to stay together, likely because these elders wanted to keep control as opposed to being a new boy on another body.

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Who is attending the 2016 Annual Meeting this Saturday?

by Londo111 in

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i'm curious if we will have eyewitness reporters at the stanley theater like we do every year....

Doubting Bro

I think if we haven't heard anything by this point, not much new is happening. We get tons of leaks and even the biggest changes like dropping the book study night were out at least a few days in advance.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Doubting Bro

crazyguy - I was thinking the same thing. I can imagine the reaction that would bring! Near where I live, I can envision one hall that sits in a very nice neighborhood getting sold and having some of the members moving to the KH I go to. That one is not in a valuable commercial area whereas the one in the nice neighborhood is in such an area. I'm predicting that hall will be sold in the next year or two at the most and consolidated into either my hall or a double hall complex that's a little closer to their publisher base.

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Doubting Bro

While making it a more internet based religion makes sense from a monetary point of view, remember how addicted they are to control. After all, it is a cult.